Annoying or Not: Hanna and Barbera

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Poll ended at Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:01 am

Annoying
9
33%
Not Annoying
18
67%
 
Total votes: 27

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Annoying or Not: Hanna and Barbera

Postby Brandon Panther » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:00 am

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Comment in italics, by me.
Why they might be annoying
Their cartoons were sub par to the quality of Disney or Warner Bros.
Their style was rather cheap, flat and tended to be cheesy.
They would overdo it on the simplistic plots, dialogue and settings just to hold down costs.
Barbera had a gambling problem.
Barbera held a grudge against Friz Freleng for many years after Freleng's cartoon "Tweetie Pie" won the Oscar for Best Animated Short, even though H-B won at least 4 Oscars prior to that.
Bill Hanna thought The Jetsons Movie was a good movie.
Joe Barbera thought Tom & Jerry: The Movie was a good movie.

Why they might not be annoying
They created a number of modern successors to Mickey Mouse that can be enjoyed by a new generation of fans.
Scooby-Doo especially has become something of a cult character in recent years. (AmIAnnoying.com clearly doesn't know what the word "cult" means in this sense)
They basically kept animation viable before the movie 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?' essentially renewed popular interest in animation.

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Postby looneyboy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:40 pm

MGM days = not annoying
Hanna Barbara days = annoying

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Postby cartoonfan4ever » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:37 pm

looneyboy wrote:MGM days = not annoying
Hanna Barbara days = annoying


Agreed.

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Postby looneyboy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:24 pm

Hanna Barbara overused the infinite repeated background trick. Your watching the Flintstones and you start thinking "Fred and Barney have been walking in their house for 2 minutes and still didn't reach the door to the outside!"

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Postby Toonatic » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:33 pm

I enjoy Hanna and Barbera works. Some of their repetitive work, better than others (like how Ricochet Rabbit is better than Quick Draw) and I love their sense of timing (Tom and Jerry is a fine example with music and rythm). My favorites of H-B are their cat and mouse series (Tom and Jerry, Pixie, Dixie, & Mr. Jinks, and Motor Mouse and Auto Cat).

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Postby Cartoonfanatic201 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:34 pm

there earlier cartoons may not be as good but you have to understand, HB were ground breakers and the most commercially successful when it came to TV Animation. they created the first Animated TV Sitcom and it's not there fault there early TV cartoons looked cheap, when they moved towards TV, budgets shrunk so there crew had to work under alot of restrictions which resulted in alot of Limited animation. Frankly, I think HB's decision to go for TV animation was the best decision they ever made, despite the Consequences they had to endure when they actually did it. I'm pretty sure if they stuck to making Theatrical cartoons, there careers would have fell through the toilet since the Theatrical cartoon business was starting to wine down by that time.

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Postby Zartok-35 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:45 pm

Me, I like early 1960s Hanna-Barbera cartoons, and a couple early-mid 1940s Tom and Jerrys, but nothing much else from Bill and Joe has impressed me a whole lot. I do not hate them, but yeah, they might be a little annoying.
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Postby nickramer » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:51 pm

To me, calling the team annoying is like calling Chuck Jones annoying. They may had ups and downs, but they left a legacy with some impacts.

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Postby Mr. Semaj » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:54 pm

MGM era (1940-1958): Not annoying
Early HB years (1958-1969): Not annoying
Later HB years (roughly 1970-1992): Annoying
Last HB years (1993-2001): Not annoying
Cartoons never were just for children. And neither is it a genre. It is an artistic medium where the use of caricatures are used to entertain or educate, with animation bringing said caricatures to life.

With such contemporary cartoons as The Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park, and the Adult Swim line-up, it's hard to dismiss the animated cartoon as only kids' fare. Cartoons can be for anyone. It's pure common sense.

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Postby Lemanic » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:28 am

I wouldn't say "annoying" as much as "in-your-face".
H-B is probably the closest to scandinavia when it comes to writing and scenography. It's very real and underground and usually it has reachable morals and not Disney morals.


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