BIG Lantz-O-Pedia Updates (09/02/10)

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BIG Lantz-O-Pedia Updates (09/02/10)

Postby Pietro » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:22 pm

Another new batch of Lantz updates featuring images and information from two Lantz cartoons previously thought to be lost: Broadway Folly and Cold Feet (both 1930)! Click here to read more (and to watch both films in their entirety) on the blog of my old friend and fellow Oswaldologist David Gerstein. Now, on with the show! :rabbit::woody::chilly::andy:

Main Page
--- Replaced old Lantz quote and associated RealMedia file with a new quote from Lantz, courtesy of Mark Kausler

1929
--- Notes added for Oil's Well and Hurdy Gurdy
--- Removed note on Snow Use, reflecting corrections by Jeff Lenburg
--- Updated notes on Permanent Wave, Cold Turkey, Pussy Willie, and Ozzie of the Circus, reflecting corrections by Jeff Lenburg

1930
--- New images added for Broadway Folly and Cold Feet
--- Notes added for Chilly Con Carmen, Bowery Bimbos, The Prison Panic, and Mars
--- Updated note on Henpecked, reflecting corrections by Jeff Lenburg

1931
--- Notes added for China, College, Shipwreck, The Bandmaster, and Radio Rhythm
--- Removed note on The Stone Age, reflecting correction by Jeff Lenburg

1932
--- Note added for A Wet Knight and The Under Dog
--- Removed notes on Beau and Arrows and Let's Eat, reflecting corrections by Jeff Lenburg

1933
--- Notes added for The Plumber, The Terrible Troubadour, The Lumber Champ, and She Done Him Right
--- Hidden gag added for The Merry Old Soul
--- Removed notes on Confidence and Hot and Cold, reflecting corrections by Jeff Lenburg

1938
--- Removed notes on Nellie the Sewing Machine Girl (or Honest Hearts & Willing Hands), Tail End, Movie Phoney News, Nellie the Indian Chief's Daughter, Voodoo in Harlem, and Silly Seals, reflecting corrections by Jeff Lenburg
--- Updated notes on Problem Child, Barnyard Romeo, Queen's Kittens, Ghost Town Frolics, Pixie Land, and The Rabbit Hunt, reflecting corrections by Jeff Lenburg
--- Updated note on Happy Scouts with an Oswald model sheet, courtesy of Kevin Langley

1940
--- Updated note on Recruiting Daze, reflecting correction by Jeff Lenburg

1941
--- Removed note on $21 a Day (Once a Month), reflecting correction by Jeff Lenburg

1942
--- Updated note on Air Raid Warden, reflecting correction by Jeff Lenburg

1944
--- Note added for Ski for Two

1951
--- Better images added for Puny Express, Sleep Happy, Wicket Wacky, Slingshot 6 7/8, The Redwood Sap, and The Woody Woodpecker Polka

1952
--- Better images added for Born to Peck, Stage Hoax, Woodpecker in the Rough, Scalp Treatment, The Great Who-Dood-It, and Termites from Mars

1953
--- Better images added for What's Sweepin, The Dog That Cried Wolf, Buccaneer Woodpecker, The Mouse and the Lion, Operation Sawdust, The Flying Turtle, Wrestling Wrecks, Maw and Paw, Belle Boys, Hypnotic Hick, and Hot Noon (or 12 O'Clock For Sure)

1954
--- Better images added for Socko in Morocco, A Horse's Tale, Alley to Bali, Dig That Dog, Under the Counter Spy, Hay Rube, Hot Rod Huckster, Broadway Bow Wow's, Pig in a Pickle, Real Gone Woody, A Fine Feathered Frenzy, and Convict Concerto

1955
--- Better images added for Helter Shelter, Witch Crafty, Private Eye Pooch, Bedtime Bedlam, Square Shootin' Square, Bunco Busters, and The Tree Medic

1956
--- Better images added for After the Ball, Get Lost, The Ostrich Egg and I, Chief Charlie Horse, Woodpecker from Mars, Hold That Rock, Calling All Cuckoos, Niagara Fools, Arts and Flowers, and Woody Meets Davy Crewcut

1957
--- Better images added for Red Riding Hoodlum, Box Car Bandit, Operation Cold Feet, The Unbearable Salesman, International Woodpecker, To Catch a Woodpecker, Round Trip to Mars, Dopey Dick the Pink Whale, and Fodder and Son

1958
--- Better images added for Misguided Missile, Watch the Birdie, Salmon Yeggs, Half Empty Saddles, His Better Elf, Everglade Raid, Tree's a Crowd, and Jittery Jester

1961
--- Better images added for Clash and Carry

1964
--- Better images added for Deep Freeze Squeeze

1965
--- Better images added for Half Baked Alaska

Miscellaneous Cartunes
--- Information added about the copyright status of Lantz's Bray work
--- New image of a poster for the 1927 Hot Dog cartoon The Farm Hand (drawn by Clyde Geronimi) added to the Bray section
--- New entry added for The Egg and I

List of Shorts in the Public Domain
--- Added note on the copyright status of Lantz's Bray work and the pre-Lantz Oswalds

Cartune Profiles: Wally Walrus
--- New image of a sketch of Wally Walrus from 1948's Kiddie Koncert added (thanks to Ted Watts)

New Cartune Profiles
--- Buzz Buzzard
--- Inspector Willoughby

Frequently Asked Questions
--- New questions added regarding the "is my father in there?" gag, Ski for Two (1944) and Half Baked Alaska (1965)

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Postby Woody Woodpecker » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:20 pm

Funny Pietro I asked in your last update about lost Oswalds and vola 2 of them turns back from dead. :D
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Postby Scarlet Pumpernickel » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:47 pm

From the Buzz Buzzard profile:

«Lundy had since left the studio and it was up to Ray Patterson [sic] and Lantz himself to handle the Woody cartoons.»



That's Don, unless an archive about Ray moonlighting at Lantz in 1951 has surfaced meanwhile. :D
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Postby Pietro » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:34 pm

Scarlet Pumpernickel wrote:From the Buzz Buzzard profile:

«Lundy had since left the studio and it was up to Ray Patterson [sic] and Lantz himself to handle the Woody cartoons.»

That's Don, unless an archive about Ray moonlighting at Lantz in 1951 has surfaced meanwhile. :D
Yikes! Thanks for spotting that typo! :D

I fixed this and a few other items.

The note about Sid Marcus has been corrected on the 1967 page. We previously stated that "Chilly and the Woodchopper" was his last onscreen credit --- it was actually 1972's "The Rude Intruder" --- thanks to Lantz-O-Pedia reader Charles Brubaker for spotting this.

Also, on the Miscellaneous Cartunes section, silent animation researcher Tom Stathes has notified me that, due to the fact that the Bray corporation was officially dissolved in 2008, all copyrights that were still in effect up until that date are now defunct. So, all of the Bray shorts are now public domain and I have made the proper corrections to the Lantz site with regard to this. Also corrected was the note on Lantz's work on the Col. Heeza Liar series (he worked on the series' second run beginning in 1922, not on the original from 1913-1917).

Thanks all!

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Postby Scarlet Pumpernickel » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:53 am

BTW why not add some information in the FAQ about the miscellaneous 8mm and 16mm Walter Lantz films like those that surface on eBay? Not the Castle or Guild-Firelight releases, but something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1930s-Film-Oswald-Rabbit-Walter-Lanz-16MM-/310247178571?pt=US_Film&hash=item483c2c414b#ht_2634wt_912
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-MM-MOVIE-FILM-MEANY-MINY-MOE-WALTER-LANTZ-PROD-/300457037584?pt=US_Film&hash=item45f4a28f10#ht_813wt_912
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Vintage-16MM-Film-3-MONKEYS-OSWALD-RABBIT-300-/150488092753?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309ca1051

It is always unclear whether the releases include the complete cartoon (despite the seller's description), or which cartoon is in the film due to the use of alternate titles, or the lack of titles.

"Christmas Cheers" may be another title for the 1936 "Knights for a Day".
"Red Hot Tires" might refer to "The Big Race" with Meany, Miny and Moe.
I'm not sure about "The G-Man" though.
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Postby Pietro » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:33 am

Scarlet Pumpernickel wrote:BTW why not add some information in the FAQ about the miscellaneous 8mm and 16mm Walter Lantz films like those that surface on eBay? Not the Castle or Guild-Firelight releases, but something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1930s-Film-Oswald-Rabbit-Walter-Lanz-16MM-/310247178571?pt=US_Film&hash=item483c2c414b#ht_2634wt_912
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-MM-MOVIE-FILM-MEANY-MINY-MOE-WALTER-LANTZ-PROD-/300457037584?pt=US_Film&hash=item45f4a28f10#ht_813wt_912
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Vintage-16MM-Film-3-MONKEYS-OSWALD-RABBIT-300-/150488092753?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309ca1051

It is always unclear whether the releases include the complete cartoon (despite the seller's description), or which cartoon is in the film due to the use of alternate titles, or the lack of titles.

"Christmas Cheers" may be another title for the 1936 "Knights for a Day".
"Red Hot Tires" might refer to "The Big Race" with Meany, Miny and Moe.
I'm not sure about "The G-Man" though.
I agree. I've been meaning to do something about the Hollywood Film Enterprises-Cine Art Film toy prints for awhile.

Notably, the mysterious "Gold Dust Oswald" that appeared listed among the 1935 Lantz releases in the first edition of Leonard Maltin's "Of Mice and Magic" (and later removed in the second) was a probably a toy print reissue of (I'm guessing) "Trade Mice" from 1938, but I'm not sure. I am positive, however, that "Gold Dust" was never an official Lantz release.

Significantly, only Lantz shorts from the mid-to-late 1930s appear to have been reissued. Here are a few others that I have spotted over the years:

"Home Run Oswald" ("Soft Ball Game")
"Oswald the Bug Charmer" ("Music Hath Charms")
"Fowl Play" ("Turkey Dinner")
"Oswald's Goofy Gopher" ("Gopher Trouble")
"Magic Gloves" ("House of Magic")
"The Quint's Birthday" ("The Birthday Party")
"Skyscraper Antics" ("The Steel Workers"; you can watch this on YouTube)

"G Man Oswald" is most likely "Case of the Lost Sheep" from 1935.

In any case, something will be added on the Lantz site soon. So, as always, stay "tooned!"

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Postby cbrubaker » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:31 am

You wrote in the note for "The Unbearable Salesman" (1957) that it was Dick Kinney's last credit. His last credit was actually a Beary Family cartoon "Goose is Wild" (1963), which Kinney co-wrote with Al Bertino.

I'm guessing the Kinney/Bertino team was freelancing because their names showed up in other studios' cartoons at the same time, including the east-coast Terrytoons.
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Postby Tom Stathes » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:52 pm

Hope this helps...
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Postby Pietro » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:25 pm

cbrubaker wrote:You wrote in the note for "The Unbearable Salesman" (1957) that it was Dick Kinney's last credit. His last credit was actually a Beary Family cartoon "Goose is Wild" (1963), which Kinney co-wrote with Al Bertino.
All fixed! Thank you for spotting that! :)

Tom Stathes wrote:Hope this helps...
It sure does! Thanks! :D

The new question (and answer) regarding the HFE 16mm and 8mm shorts is now online on the FAQ section.

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